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Post by Eric on Oct 28, 2012 17:19:43 GMT -5
Staples had a deal with a coupon that allowed it to be purchased for $39. Normally $79. So far I'm liking it. Computer performance is key for me and yes, there is a notable improvement. So, if you are looking to upgrade from an older version I don't think you will be disappointed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 20:13:03 GMT -5
I've been using it for a couple months now (MSDN) and although I like it, performance is great and I've had 0 issues; I have one big complaint. They slapped a tablet interface/functions and did not give an alternate option for people still using mouse and keyboards. If you use the apps with their "Metro" interface (Start Menu, Xbox Music, etc) they do not function that well with a mouse. They were designed for touch. Although I am using it, and learning it, and have started to feel comfortable with it, those that aren't computer savvy/(business world) are going to have a huge issue with this. The need to make the start menu easier for keyboard and mouse.
Being an IT guy, I always make an effort to adapt to new technology, I don't want to end up like one of those people who still want to install Win2k because they don't like the "Chrome" of XP. Get it! Adapt to it! Learn it! and help educate others how to use it is how I work, however, I really see no reason to recommend an upgrade to my father in law, sisters or friends who ask me about it, unless they have a touch screen to use it with.
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Post by Eric on Oct 28, 2012 22:16:49 GMT -5
All good a very valid points. Yep, I'm a glutton for computer related punishment. I ran my own computer business for a little over 10 years.
You are correct that I probably shouldn't be recommending it to anyone that isn't a true computer nerd.
One of my thoughts of going to Win 8, I really would like to try a pen tablet for photo editing. I thought a tablet would work with the Win 8 for a new way of getting around the computer and editing software. I just don't want to spend the money for a Wacom. I would like to find something that works descent for moving around more so than drawing, which I'm not good at anyway.
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Post by Tim Bazzinett on Oct 29, 2012 21:53:13 GMT -5
I just reformatted the PC and installed windows 8 tonight.
I forgot one important detail, to backup my firefox profile. It's gone. Have to rebuild my bookmarks from scratch.
So far, I haven't played enough with it to like it or hate it. It's different. As an IT guy, I will have to learn it, and teach others how to use it.
I haven't installed any apps, other than Unreal Tournament, just to check my Nvidia D3d drivers were working properly.
Eric, I am looking forward to the MS Surface tablet and its clones to come out soon. I held off a purchase of a laptop at work. I would like to see the tablets first, providing I can use a USB-to-Ethernet adapter to program routers, program/test wireless networks, and test internet handoffs before putting routers in place.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 21:56:51 GMT -5
I've been holding out for a new PC/Laptop/Tablet and the Surface is my #1 choice right now.. just waiting for reviews on the hardware.
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Post by Eric on Oct 29, 2012 23:24:45 GMT -5
My wife has a Asus Transformer table and it works well for her. What I'm thinking of getting for me is Wacom Bamboo Capture Pen and Touch Tablet (CTH470) to use with my laptop for editing photos. It cost about $90. I just haven't seen a youtube or review showing it working with Windows 8, though I am sure it would work fine.
I have found an issue with Windows 8 64 bit that is bugging me. It might just be a bad video driver, but the screen brightness will jump up and down for no reason. I'm running on a Toshiba Satellite with a I5. It also has something to do with operating mode. If I'm in the EGO mode the screen stays wherever I set it. If I bump it up to balance or performance, this is when the screen will start changing brightness. It is a real pain when trying to edit a photo.
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Post by rkarolak on Oct 31, 2012 9:25:41 GMT -5
I've been using Windows 8 since the Developer's Preview, and I got the RTM through my Technet subscription (another IT professional and technology enthusiast).
It's grown on be a lot, and haven't had many issues. The metro interface bugged me a little bit on a desktop at first, but I don't really mind it now. The hot corners work well for me with mouse and I feel using the keyboard in 8 to navigate and use tasks works really well. I don't find that I miss the start menu as much as I thought. Performance in general is better. Demanding things like games are about the same.
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Post by rkarolak on Oct 31, 2012 9:56:41 GMT -5
AMD/ATi did stop officially supporting some of their older cards with 8. On a machine with a 4890 I had to play around with it to get Catalyst working properly.
The surface looks nice. 8's a pleasure to use with a touchscreen. It is RT though. I personally may wait for the x86 version of Surface or if I decide to spend the money down the road, look at something like the Lenova Yoga.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 9:57:19 GMT -5
my biggest beef with the metro interface with keyboard and mouse is I have to grab a scroll bar to move across it, I can't tab, arrow, scroll the wheel or flick the mouse, I have to grab a tiny scroll bar, I just think they could have made that part easier. It's grown on me, I can use it and I don't mind it, just wish there was a hotkey or something I could use for those.
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Post by rkarolak on Oct 31, 2012 11:13:32 GMT -5
I'm not sure why you can't do that. I have no problem scrolling in metro apps using the methods you described. I just tested with the Mail app.
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Post by rkarolak on Oct 31, 2012 11:27:25 GMT -5
When it comes to my job, I'm a bit more conservative in upgrades. I'd rather test a platform (I manage enterprise software, not desktop though) and roll out a little more slowly to users than get the bleeding edge and have lots of support calls and hours on fixing bugs and issues.
Personally, I like using the latest technology and don't mind adapting. I know some people who are similar to the example you mentioned, where they will always cling to the older versions of things. They'd do anything to make Windows operate as close to Windows NT as they can and will grumble if they can't. They'll resist upgrading to something like 8 as long as possible, or put in a lot of effort to make it operate like older versions of Windows.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 11:40:58 GMT -5
man.. thats crazy.. i swear I tested the scroll wheel.. even better!
And yeah, when I did desktops, only the IT departments gets if (and any upper exec's if they requested it), then we'd rolled it out to a few computers around the company to test the different software, then if all else works, when new computers were brought in, they would get the new OS, otherwise they just stayed on what they were working on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 13:40:17 GMT -5
seriously.. I'll be damned!!! I swear I tried that.. Oh well. LOL!
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Post by rkarolak on Oct 31, 2012 14:28:52 GMT -5
lol.. Our company is only now this year moving from XP to 7. I doubt they will look at 8 anytime soon outside of some small-scale testing and investigation, but I'd guess most companies unless they are fairly small will wait and stick with 7 for a while. The training along will cost a lot of time and money. I find the behavior with trackpads to vary depending on the machine with 8 as well. If your tackpad support it, it will use similar gestures that are used on touchscreens. This annoyed me at first, because the trackpad on my Thinkpad that I had 8 has it enabled and I kept accidentally switching screens because of it. On larger touchpads it's much nicer though. My Thinkpad's touchpad isn't very big and isn't flush with the panel. That probably annoyed me the most about 8 when they started doing that in the Release Preview. That and I couldn't find how to shut down the computer when I first tried the Developer Preview.
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Post by petepixxx on Nov 6, 2012 11:17:51 GMT -5
Found the MicroCenter $40 disc offer and couldn't resist. Don't have a touch screen, so I'm getting used to quickly jumping out of the Metro interface while using a mouse and keyboard. All my main programs have at least SP1 in 64-bit so that worry is over. Just downloaded PerfectDisk to start looking at utilities wanted/needed.
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